’Extreme secularists’ did not ‘invent’ abortion. Abortion (also known as miscarriage) occurs naturally in a high proportion of human pregnancies and in all other placental mammals. If you are a religious individual, this would make god (or gods) the ‘inventor’ of the process.

 Similarly, in the broadest sense, ‘extreme secularists’ did not invent communism. When looking at non-literate hunter-horticulturalist or hunter-gatherer societies (similar to those we suspect were ubiquitous beyond 10,0000 years ago) anthropologists have often noted that while gender roles are often highly defined, such societies are often largely non-hierarchical in terms of organisation, and goods are broadly communally owned, if ownership exists as a real concept. Such societies are also deeply spiritual and religion and ritual play a huge role, although not necessarily in the intrusive, repressive, resrtictive and directive way that organised religion plays in hierarchical societies. In other words, viewing economics as the acquisition and distribution of resources, it is perfectly easy to argue that a form of communism is the natural economic system, and that it developed along side religion rather than in spite of it.

ORLY? you should watch the news sometime, you’ll be surprised.

until you can give birth shut your face you ugly fuck.

But that thou hurt no other, do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

just reiterate the golden rule to fill the heart with loving compassion, y’all!

A mighty Samurai called upon a famously wise learned man to learn where the Hell is and how to avoid it.
The sage immediately knew that the samurai was a practical man uninterested in philosophy. He desired to know the location of the gates to Hell so he could steer clear for all his days. The sage thought a bit about how best to proceed. He spoke to the samurai, ” Are you really a samurai warrior in charge of men of battle? You dress kind of like a joker.”
This enraged the warrior who swiftly and silently narrowed his eyes while drawing his sword. The sage then said, “There you have found the gates to Hell.” The warrior’s eyes widened in a brilliant flash of understanding and he returned his sword to the scabbard. The sage then said, “And here you have found the gates of Heaven.”

Thank you Osho.
HARE KRISHNA

Externally religion is but a banner to rally your armies and population. Too often used to exclude.

Internally, however, religious texts provide a foundation for understanding the sciences (agriculture, anatomy, architecture and astronomy) , history and human relations based on love and truth and best possible outcome.

Jesus and his disciples spoke several languages ( Koine, Hebrew, other trade dialects and probably Latin as well) and benefited from the multicultural sharing of knowledge in his travels. Just as languages and musical interpretation vary from region to region, the symbolic metaphors used to allow the human mind to contemplate Eternity’s Composer will vary depending on mindset and linguistic predilections.

Sadly, knowledge has deteriorated and Westerners tend to dismiss anything that we think may interfere with our addictions (indoor plumbing, scheduling conflicts, individualism, junk food, technology and other life draining artifacts of modern soceity)

Basically it boils down to power and control vs the Self.
If people compare various sacred texts, they are rather consistent in promoting the best for the most. However, the Bible was written / compiled / revised for the benefit of the few – the Jews – by brilliant Roman Empire Ethnic Jewish Christians to psychologically control the future of anyone unfortunate enough to try and implement, much less comprehend their prized secret teachings which afforded them a great deal of privilege over the masses..

So, let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Religion is a vehicle, but can be misguided or neglected. Is the car to blame for the accident when the driver falls asleep at the wheel allowing the mentally deranged passenger reaches over him to take control and kills everybody?

Hitler’s Fascist Imperialist showdown with Communist Imperialist (waged entirely for resources, not over religion or even ideology, Hitler stated when asked about the difference between National Socialism and Marxism said: “They are both essentially the same…”.

Can the atheist state that in an infinite universe, his earthbound, human experiences, intelligence, knowledge and perceptions can be universally applied everywhere thus there cannot possibly be a God.
The answer is no, thus the total arrogance of the atheist.

When there is an atheist equivalent of a Mother Theresa, then we may pay attention to the self-important drivel of the puffed-up atheist sheep.

Hitler’s Fascist Imperialist showdown with Communist Imperialist (waged entirely for resources, not over religion or even ideology, Hitler stated when asked about the difference between National Socialism and Marxism said: “They are both essentially the same…”.

Can the atheist state that in an infinite universe, his earthbound, human experiences, intelligence, knowledge and perceptions can be universally applied everywhere thus there cannot possibly be a God.
The answer is no, thus the total arrogance of the atheist.

When there is an atheist equivalent of a Mother Theresa, then we may pay attention to the self-important drivel of the puffed-up atheist sheep.

Religion is, however, a idea that is used to permit atrocities in the face of the public and the world. When heretics were burned and alleged witches were tortured, people were convinced that it was just and proper to do so, because God saw it fit to condemn them. Religion blinded them and shrouded the question of “why?”. They accepted the reason as religion.

In reference to Jesus' crucifixtion; God is the narrator, he knows everything. Man's free will caused Jesus to be sacrificed, and God knew this would happen. He granted Jesus eternal life in order to build the basis of Christianity; this 'new religion' would be the tool to save mankind from their inherent evil.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683…

He must be very proud.

Its like “Kill a person – confess it in church – God will forgive – Go to Heaven – Enjoy”

Another thing – If so called God wanted to make people happy, why force them to believe in religion, god……… its people choice, their own will wether to believe ir not…….. if u believe you live, go to heaven else hell

This is f*****g crazy

Its like “Kill a person – confess it in church – God will forgive – Go to Heaven – Enjoy”

Another thing – If so called God wanted to make people happy, why force them to believe in religion, god……… its people choice, their own will wether to believe ir not…….. if u believe you live, go to heaven else hell

This is f*****g crazy

I in no way am attempting to defend any bastards who torture by using some ridiculous “everybody does it” argument, though upon re-reading my own comment, I see how it can rather easily be taken that way, which was my failure for not re-reading those comments through the eyes of another reader, for which I apologize. In fact, I meant just the opposite, i.e., this: “By the way, while we’re condemning the Catholics for torture, let’s remember to include the other despicables and condemn them, too.”

I hope this is clearer, and again, apologies for my own signal failure in not considering how others might very reasonably interpret my remarks.

I in no way am attempting to defend any bastards who torture by using some ridiculous “everybody does it” argument, though upon re-reading my own comment, I see how it can rather easily be taken that way, which was my failure for not re-reading those comments through the eyes of another reader, for which I apologize. In fact, I meant just the opposite, i.e., this: “By the way, while we’re condemning the Catholics for torture, let’s remember to include the other despicables and condemn them, too.”

I hope this is clearer, and again, apologies for my own signal failure in not considering how others might very reasonably interpret my remarks.

Yes, Lunger, Hitler gave speeches for political purposes. Yes, Obama gives speeches for political purposes. But to compare Obama to that monster Hitler isn’t merely essentially invalid beyond that single ludicrous point, it’s offensive. Yes, I’m American, but I would feel exactly the same had you said that about, say, Britain’s Prime Minister Brown.

Now, had you compared Hitler to Stalin or Mao, to use two of his contemporaries, that would have been valid, since they, like Hitler, were murderous and genocidal megalomaniacs. Or you could have used contemporary examples, such as Irananian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or North Korean “Dear Leader” Kim Jong-il, though they both far “short” of achieving the great “glories” Hitler achieved of murdering millions, as far as I know anyway.

Your comparison is akin to noting the fact that Hitler breathed air, you breathe air, I breathe air, everybody breathes air — se we’re ALL Hitlers, or wannabes.

Yes, the comparison is deeply offensive, not just to every American, including those who loathe President Obama — after all, you essentially said Americans are Hitlers — but to virtually every single human being on the planet, including, presumably, yourself.

Yes, Lunger, Hitler gave speeches for political purposes. Yes, Obama gives speeches for political purposes. But to compare Obama to that monster Hitler isn’t merely essentially invalid beyond that single ludicrous point, it’s offensive. Yes, I’m American, but I would feel exactly the same had you said that about, say, Britain’s Prime Minister Brown.

Now, had you compared Hitler to Stalin or Mao, to use two of his contemporaries, that would have been valid, since they, like Hitler, were murderous and genocidal megalomaniacs. Or you could have used contemporary examples, such as Irananian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or North Korean “Dear Leader” Kim Jong-il, though they both far “short” of achieving the great “glories” Hitler achieved of murdering millions, as far as I know anyway.

Your comparison is akin to noting the fact that Hitler breathed air, you breathe air, I breathe air, everybody breathes air — se we’re ALL Hitlers, or wannabes.

Yes, the comparison is deeply offensive, not just to every American, including those who loathe President Obama — after all, you essentially said Americans are Hitlers — but to virtually every single human being on the planet, including, presumably, yourself.

Did some supernatural being came from some other place and physically write the bible all in one sitting?

No, I don’t think it did. In fact, I have reason to believe that a bunch of old men who never even met Jesus decided to write about him and all these other tales told by a person from another person from another person.

“Virgin” was mistranslated from “young woman”– Mary wasn’t a virgin, by the way, some fool bollocks-ed up the Hebrew from Aramaic translation of “Young Woman” (or “woman of marrying age”) to the Greek word for virgin AND EVERYTHING SPIRALED OUT OF CONTROL FROM THERE. [http://www.2think.org/hii/virgin.shtml]

This being taken into account, and the fact of how blatantly flawed eye-witness testimony is [http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Accuracy-of-Eye-Witness-Testimony-and-Its-Flaws&id=328261], I CANNOT accept anything in the bible as true or even sound advice at some times.

Ultimately, God’s love does not come from some book written in the Bronze Age, especially when one is relying on the fallibility of mankind; or even more so when the people who wrote had an agenda. I don’t know where “god’s love” comes from and since I’m an Atheist for the time being I don’t believe I’ll ever know of this seemingly fictitious feeling some people speak of.

And not unlike what others have been saying about how people in power will use whatever means to keep it– I have to say: Whether religious or not, those few greedy, power-hungry, and warmongering sons-a-bitches will always, ALWAYS, find a way to assert their power.

It is religion’s unfortunate place to be the pretext of these maniacs’ plans. I don’t think anyone can say for certain that if religion weren’t around this crazy stuff would not have happened. In fact, I have reason to believe that humans will almost always find different means to tear each other apart for some reason or another.

Just as the minister below me has said, it IS men that are doing these things. Just as I believe that it is MEN that are capable of so many better things. We evolved these wonderful brains and morals for the purpose of survival, and for good Darwinian reasons: we are still a species today. Granted, it’s only been 200,000 years since Homo Sapiens came onto the scene (a mere HALF amount of time of our “cousins” the Neanderthals) [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/becoming-human-part-1.html].

But nonetheless, man is certainly fallible, and therefore I don’t think that believing in “God’s Love” according to the tainting telephone game that is our terrible tendency in life to perpetuate is something that one should be living their life by. Or something to even consider.

Did some supernatural being came from some other place and physically write the bible all in one sitting?

No, I don’t think it did. In fact, I have reason to believe that a bunch of old men who never even met Jesus decided to write about him and all these other tales told by a person from another person from another person.

“Virgin” was mistranslated from “young woman”– Mary wasn’t a virgin, by the way, some fool bollocks-ed up the Hebrew from Aramaic translation of “Young Woman” (or “woman of marrying age”) to the Greek word for virgin AND EVERYTHING SPIRALED OUT OF CONTROL FROM THERE. [http://www.2think.org/hii/virgin.shtml]

This being taken into account, and the fact of how blatantly flawed eye-witness testimony is [http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Accuracy-of-Eye-Witness-Testimony-and-Its-Flaws&id=328261], I CANNOT accept anything in the bible as true or even sound advice at some times.

Ultimately, God’s love does not come from some book written in the Bronze Age, especially when one is relying on the fallibility of mankind; or even more so when the people who wrote had an agenda. I don’t know where “god’s love” comes from and since I’m an Atheist for the time being I don’t believe I’ll ever know of this seemingly fictitious feeling some people speak of.

And not unlike what others have been saying about how people in power will use whatever means to keep it– I have to say: Whether religious or not, those few greedy, power-hungry, and warmongering sons-a-bitches will always, ALWAYS, find a way to assert their power.

It is religion’s unfortunate place to be the pretext of these maniacs’ plans. I don’t think anyone can say for certain that if religion weren’t around this crazy stuff would not have happened. In fact, I have reason to believe that humans will almost always find different means to tear each other apart for some reason or another.

Just as the minister below me has said, it IS men that are doing these things. Just as I believe that it is MEN that are capable of so many better things. We evolved these wonderful brains and morals for the purpose of survival, and for good Darwinian reasons: we are still a species today. Granted, it’s only been 200,000 years since Homo Sapiens came onto the scene (a mere HALF amount of time of our “cousins” the Neanderthals) [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/becoming-human-part-1.html].

But nonetheless, man is certainly fallible, and therefore I don’t think that believing in “God’s Love” according to the tainting telephone game that is our terrible tendency in life to perpetuate is something that one should be living their life by. Or something to even consider.

Excuse me, who made those plans? Just tell me their origin. If you’ve done a little bit of computing, you’d begin to appreciate the kind of programming that went into CREATING the genetic code. Science has only just scratched the surface.

I know a little maths as well, an I’m awed by the physical laws we have around, by their conformity to laid down rules.

Now hear me, It’s a simple issue. Atheism is a religion, as much as mine. It requires you to believe that there is no God, mine requires you to. Atheism is based on one premise, that all the wonder we see around, all the beauty, is as a result of an ACCIDENT. The source of which I dare you to TELL and PROVE.

You have ignored enough proof of God’s existence already. I doubt you will change your mind if you saw the parting of the sea. Because that’s a little miracle compared to what you see everyday.

Time will not permit me to launch into the intricate designs woven into your body, nor of the delicate forces that sustain your life.

My final word to you, Crax:
If you have a child, or a young one that you love, do me this favour:
Every morning call them to yourself, look them in the eye, and tell them the “TRUTH”. That they are nothing but ACCIDENTS, originated from some primodal soup or whatever which couldn’t take the heat on Earth some millions of years ago. Let them know that they originated from monkeys and gorillas. And while you’re at it, keep reminding yourself of it each day, for the rest of your life.

Been nice talking to you buddy. I still insist you are too intelligent to have been an Accident, and always will see you as another example of the handiworks of THE ULTIMATE BEING, GOD.

Excuse me, who made those plans? Just tell me their origin. If you’ve done a little bit of computing, you’d begin to appreciate the kind of programming that went into CREATING the genetic code. Science has only just scratched the surface.

I know a little maths as well, an I’m awed by the physical laws we have around, by their conformity to laid down rules.

Now hear me, It’s a simple issue. Atheism is a religion, as much as mine. It requires you to believe that there is no God, mine requires you to. Atheism is based on one premise, that all the wonder we see around, all the beauty, is as a result of an ACCIDENT. The source of which I dare you to TELL and PROVE.

You have ignored enough proof of God’s existence already. I doubt you will change your mind if you saw the parting of the sea. Because that’s a little miracle compared to what you see everyday.

Time will not permit me to launch into the intricate designs woven into your body, nor of the delicate forces that sustain your life.

My final word to you, Crax:
If you have a child, or a young one that you love, do me this favour:
Every morning call them to yourself, look them in the eye, and tell them the “TRUTH”. That they are nothing but ACCIDENTS, originated from some primodal soup or whatever which couldn’t take the heat on Earth some millions of years ago. Let them know that they originated from monkeys and gorillas. And while you’re at it, keep reminding yourself of it each day, for the rest of your life.

Been nice talking to you buddy. I still insist you are too intelligent to have been an Accident, and always will see you as another example of the handiworks of THE ULTIMATE BEING, GOD.

To begin, you honestly believe that the so-called creator of human intelligence wanted you to take things on faith? That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. Secondly, where is this proof that of the biblical events that YOU flout? You say that you won’t show it because of your “faith”. How about this: Humor me. Show me this proof you speak of. I’m sorry that my mind works in a way that requires me to think about and see proof of your God before I throw my life away to some nonexistent prick in the sky.

Continuing on your “they always evolved in pairs”, did you even READ my last post or take basic Biology? Let me explain for the dim-witted. GENES ARE THE INSTRUCTION PLANS FOR OUR BODIES AND THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT YOU SEE ON THEM. IF AN ANIMAL IS BORN WITH SOME MUTATION OR TRAIT THAT GIVES IT AN EDGE OVER THE OTHER ANIMALS, THEN NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE TO SURVIVE LONG ENOUGH TO REPRODUCE, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO HAVE THAT TRAIT BE DOMINANT. THAT WAY, IT CAN REPRODUCE WITH IT’S OWN SPECIES, AND THAT TRAIT IS PASSED ON TO IT’S CHILDREN, WHO CAN DO THE SAME. DO YOU RECALL WHAT I SAID ABOUT YOUR MISGUIDED CONCEPTIONS OF A HALF-HUMAN, HALF-APE? AND HOW IT’S NOT LIKE A FUCKING CENTAUR? Now, that I put that explanation in a way simple enough for YOU to read, on to your next problem.

We HAVE proof. We have intermediary animals. Ever heard of birds perhaps? Or the Homo genus? Go on Wiki-fucking-pedia right now and search Homo. When you get back, you may know that we even have intermediary animals for OUR OWN species. They’re called fossils.

Now show your proof, and none of that “faith” bullshit either. The DEFINITION of faith is believing without proof.

Lastly, our scientists usually don’t believe in god because they are, unlike you, intelligent. In fact, in I.Q. tests and on a TV show, Atheists have time and time again been shown to have higher I.Q.s than believers. Would you like to know why? It’s because spirituality has been CONCLUSIVELY connected to brain-damage. “Oh,” you say, “But not ALL believers could have had brain damage, could they Crax?” “Well you’re right about that” I answer. That’s because the majority of Christians, Jews, and whatever other religion were raised to believe it from birth, just like Santa Claus, though he was ALSO revealed to be a fraud, wasn’t he?

Sincerely, Crax.

To begin, you honestly believe that the so-called creator of human intelligence wanted you to take things on faith? That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. Secondly, where is this proof that of the biblical events that YOU flout? You say that you won’t show it because of your “faith”. How about this: Humor me. Show me this proof you speak of. I’m sorry that my mind works in a way that requires me to think about and see proof of your God before I throw my life away to some nonexistent prick in the sky.

Continuing on your “they always evolved in pairs”, did you even READ my last post or take basic Biology? Let me explain for the dim-witted. GENES ARE THE INSTRUCTION PLANS FOR OUR BODIES AND THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT YOU SEE ON THEM. IF AN ANIMAL IS BORN WITH SOME MUTATION OR TRAIT THAT GIVES IT AN EDGE OVER THE OTHER ANIMALS, THEN NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE TO SURVIVE LONG ENOUGH TO REPRODUCE, BUT IT ALSO HAS TO HAVE THAT TRAIT BE DOMINANT. THAT WAY, IT CAN REPRODUCE WITH IT’S OWN SPECIES, AND THAT TRAIT IS PASSED ON TO IT’S CHILDREN, WHO CAN DO THE SAME. DO YOU RECALL WHAT I SAID ABOUT YOUR MISGUIDED CONCEPTIONS OF A HALF-HUMAN, HALF-APE? AND HOW IT’S NOT LIKE A FUCKING CENTAUR? Now, that I put that explanation in a way simple enough for YOU to read, on to your next problem.

We HAVE proof. We have intermediary animals. Ever heard of birds perhaps? Or the Homo genus? Go on Wiki-fucking-pedia right now and search Homo. When you get back, you may know that we even have intermediary animals for OUR OWN species. They’re called fossils.

Now show your proof, and none of that “faith” bullshit either. The DEFINITION of faith is believing without proof.

Lastly, our scientists usually don’t believe in god because they are, unlike you, intelligent. In fact, in I.Q. tests and on a TV show, Atheists have time and time again been shown to have higher I.Q.s than believers. Would you like to know why? It’s because spirituality has been CONCLUSIVELY connected to brain-damage. “Oh,” you say, “But not ALL believers could have had brain damage, could they Crax?” “Well you’re right about that” I answer. That’s because the majority of Christians, Jews, and whatever other religion were raised to believe it from birth, just like Santa Claus, though he was ALSO revealed to be a fraud, wasn’t he?

Sincerely, Crax.

Well, I am not obliged to produce evidence, cos I lay claim to faith. (Doesn’t mean I can’t, though). Now, you lay claim to Science, and flout the need for PROOF. Evolution is as much a belief as my belief in God. Why? Cos you have no proof of it, only assumptions. I repeat, only assumptions. Where are the intermediate animals? And I guess the animals somehow always evolved in pairs, so they could reproduce, right? How intelligent of them. Yeah, so you cover all this with the “Millions of years ago” phrase, and you think it’s so, so logical?

If you demand proof of my faith, which lays no emphasis on proof, then you ought to be ready to show me some SERIOUS PROOF for your belief or non – belief, claiming science as its basis.

You also said :
“Until then, here’s some reasons why I’ll trust a scientist, over a weirdo in a dress, or any ancient book, any day”

Do you mind doing a background check on some of the revered scientists and their belief in God/ the bible? …

Well, I am not obliged to produce evidence, cos I lay claim to faith. (Doesn’t mean I can’t, though). Now, you lay claim to Science, and flout the need for PROOF. Evolution is as much a belief as my belief in God. Why? Cos you have no proof of it, only assumptions. I repeat, only assumptions. Where are the intermediate animals? And I guess the animals somehow always evolved in pairs, so they could reproduce, right? How intelligent of them. Yeah, so you cover all this with the “Millions of years ago” phrase, and you think it’s so, so logical?

If you demand proof of my faith, which lays no emphasis on proof, then you ought to be ready to show me some SERIOUS PROOF for your belief or non – belief, claiming science as its basis.

You also said :
“Until then, here’s some reasons why I’ll trust a scientist, over a weirdo in a dress, or any ancient book, any day”

Do you mind doing a background check on some of the revered scientists and their belief in God/ the bible? …

Well, I am not obliged to produce evidence, cos I lay claim to faith. (Doesn’t mean I can’t, though). Now, you lay claim to Science, and flout the need for PROOF. Evolution is as much a belief as my belief in God. Why? Cos you have no proof of it, only assumptions. I repeat, only assumptions. Where are the intermediate animals? And I guess the animals somehow always evolved in pairs, so they could reproduce, right? How intelligent of them. Yeah, so you cover all this with the “Millions of years ago” phrase, and you think it’s so, so logical?

If you demand proof of my faith, which lays no emphasis on proof, then you ought to be ready to show me some SERIOUS PROOF for your belief or non – belief, claiming science as its basis.

You also said :
“Until then, here’s some reasons why I’ll trust a scientist, over a weirdo in a dress, or any ancient book, any day”

Do you mind doing a background check on some of the revered scientists and their belief in God/ the bible? …

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1xFg9w/www.youtube.com/watch%253Fv%253DbGoYbjzy8-s

Also, by your beliefs, it would’ve been fate for me to find this video, and God would’ve put it in my path, so I could encounter it, and use it as a way to mock you?

Anyway, time for some cold hard facts, about some interesting things:

The brain of the Amazon river dolphin (Pink Dolphin) is 40% larger than a human brain.

So, seeing as these dolphins brains are bigger than a humans, then, surely, they have some kind of capabilities along the lines of intelligence. Why are these not mentioned in the bible? If their brains are superior to our own, why the hell, would they not get a chance to go to heaven? Why instead does this happen?:

The pink dolphin has been listed as endangered by the International Union for Conservation of the Nature due to pollution, over fishing, excessive boat trafficking and habitat loss.

Is that just? Is this fair? I think not.

This next report:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog

explains the way that dogs have been forced to evolve through breeding, in order to be better used to assist humanity, although this should actually be classed as genetic engineering, which has been cited as blasphemy, and as playing god… This has been happening for thousands of years, so, when god got in touch with with Noah, when Jesus apparently, walked the earth, when Muhammed was converted into a prophet, why was this not mentioned, and stopped?

It is stated that, without dogs and their breeding (forced evolution), man may not have survived for so long, for example, with the crossing of the Bering Strait, which is mentioned on the above page, and, we have all heard stories about how they have assisted us, in many, many ways:
Sniffer dogs, mountain rescue dogs, pulling their owners from burning buildings, defending people from attack, pulling sleds, etc, etc… So… As they have been so key in helping us for so long, would they not deserve a place in Heaven too?

Would Mahatma Ghandi be burning in Hell now, because he was not a Christian?
Would Malcolm X be burning in Hell, because he was so militant in his approaches to changing American Human Rights policies?
Would the millions of Allied soldiers, who fought to restore (relative) peace, during the first and second world wars, be condemned to Hell for breaking the: Thou shalt not murder, commandment?

On the flipside to that, do you think that a rapist or a paedophile, or any other type of criminal, would be allowed into Heaven if he “found God”?
Will the children whom don’t even get to take their 3rd breath be banned to Hell, as they weren’t Christened, before they died?

I look forward to your responses on the above.

Although, in answer to those of you who ask why the majority of us English speakers are picking on Christianity, rather than Islam, that’s because the majority of Western countries, which I imagine that the majority of the forum readers in here come from, will have been brainwashed since youth, into believing in this, although, I can assure you that I have had many, many conversations with ill informed Muslims, who are also unable to offer satisfactory answers about why Darwins theories (which were based on many years of research) would be impossible.

And, while I mention that, I must advise you that I found your statement above rather entertaining:

Science will always hit a brick wall in trying to find the origin of the universe. Faith takes people like me above that wall.

First and foremost, what fucking evidence do you have of anything in the bible? If you can work out how to produce any of the “miracles” which are mentioned in the bible; Parting of a sea, being the ideal choice, without with a stick and faith alone, then, I promise you that I will follow whatever old books’ ideals you throw at me say.

Until then, here’s some reasons why I’ll trust a scientist, over a weirdo in a dress, or any ancient book, any day: http://www.newuniverse.co.uk/Scientists.html